I was also considering those Grover 406 auto-locking tuners, nothing wrong with a wrap or two. But I had been “watching” several options in Reverb, and the one seller sent me a discounted offer for the Klusons, and those have a 19:1 ratio, so I decided on those. They are convenient, but it takes a bigger budget for two sets of those on a 12 string, so I may have to save up some mad money twice as long for my 12 string.I put a set of Grover 406 mini rotomatic tuners on my G5657T (basically a G5655T) when I had it. That style of Grover didn't 'lock' by winding a separate knob on the bottom of the tuner, and I found that I still needed at least a full wind or two. I know that's antithetical to the purpose of proper locking tuners, but I mainly wanted those Grovers to get the 18:1 gear ratio, as opposed to the stock 14:1 ratio, which made it nearly impossible to get the G to the accurate pitch.
I swapped the G5657T for a G5410T recently, and I've been fine with the tuning stability of the stock, open-back 18:1. But as others have said, if you do a lot of string changes, it goes way faster with locking tuners, so in that case it's probably worth getting Klusons or other nicer ones than I'd tried initially.
I was waiting for the 12 ..... it looks greatBefore, the back looks about the same, the new ones say GROVER.
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Lots of string on the pegs so that I could reuse them, just used a capo to hold them in place.
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After, nice and tidy. The through holes are slightly off center so I think it does not kink the string as much. The auto-lock feature works really well. Most are tuned to pitch in about a quarter turn, some maybe 3/4 of a turn around the peg for the lighter gages. Very happy with it.
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Stringing up conventional tuners is not that hard, but when you are removing strings with a locking wrap, that can spring back and stick you in the side of your finger or thumb, and that is no fun. Looking forward to the next changes when removing the strings will be easier and I won’t have to give a big enough sample for a Theranos blood test.
Not sure where Glen got his. I got my signature truss rod cover from:
Thanks! I had them made at a local trophy shop. I used to get a bunch of Cub Scout pinewood derby trophies from there back when I was a scout leader and my kid was younger. He did the gold plates too.