"If something is hard to do, it's just not worth doing" Homer Simpson

Henry

I Bleed Orange
Apr 9, 2014
18,950
Petaluma
Let's also talk about the insufferable boomers who basically wasted this world and then retreat into their air conditioning and complain about all the problems which are basically their fault. It will be my gen's turn soon.

If anything, I am relieved by how well the new generations turned out after seeing such poor examples before them.
 

calebaaron666

Friend of Fred
Aug 15, 2018
7,325
Auburn, Maine
Let's also talk about the insufferable boomers who basically wasted this world and then retreat into their air conditioning and complain about all the problems which are basically their fault. It will be my gen's turn soon.

If anything, I am relieved by how well the new generations turned out after seeing such poor examples before them.
They get mad saying the younger generation is spoiled, but THEY are the ones that gave us all trophies for participation when we were kids!
 
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Byron

Country Gent
Sep 4, 2009
1,199
uk
Yeah, we brought those kids up that way. Did they invent thier own screens, air conditioning and dependence on imported goods.
 

dlew919

Country Gent
Jul 18, 2016
1,200
Sydney, Australia
Jazz? Pfft, they just make it up as they go along…

H Simpson.

Comic books are the only true American art form.

What about jazz?

jazz sucks.

bart and Lisa Simpson.
 

Ricochet

Senior Gretsch-Talker
Nov 13, 2009
22,254
Monkey Island
No, we chose to go to the moon because we wanted to compare private parts with the USSR. Among real scientists it is accepted as a colossal waste of money with little to no scientific value.

With several countries spending gazzillions on space exploration I'm starting to suspect they might know something the big masses don't... Alien life, the imminent collapse of civilisation, no idea really, but in my mind the math just doesn't add up.
 

AZBrahma

Synchromatic
Dec 18, 2020
617
Arizona
At 47 I'm barely over the OP's age threshold. Maybe I'm an old soul, or maybe I was born 40 or 50 years too late, or maybe that's exactly the same thing. I was pretty happy with things until I was about 30 and the widespread adoption of smart phones and social media platforms occurred. I realized pretty quickly that anything labeled 'smart' actually seemed to make us all dumber, and really just made us all ten feet tall behind a screen and run to our corners of confirmation bias. Add in the manipulation and control of data through those devices, and very little good is going to happen IMO. I like interfacing with humans when I choose to do so, not screens, but everyone has their nose in them all the time now and those devices are not going anywhere.

Add in what Henry says about the boomers, which is 100% true, they have a lot of blame (maybe all the blame) for the perceived deficiencies, and no generation is better than another. They all stink in their own ways, and all have their good as well. My kids, aged 19 to 28, are all smart as hell, work hard, are family-focused, and are very objective. They understand no one owes them a thing and the level of success and dedication they all have is impressive. So something has gone very right with them, despite others in their generation being poor examples of humanity (like we've had in all generations). I'm actually seeing a shift back to more traditional values and viewpoints in the younger generations now, which is something I never expected. Every pancake has two sides, no matter how flat...
 

MrWookiee

Country Gent
Jun 17, 2020
1,511
SoCal, USA
At 47 I'm barely over the OP's age threshold. Maybe I'm an old soul, or maybe I was born 40 or 50 years too late, or maybe that's exactly the same thing. I was pretty happy with things until I was about 30 and the widespread adoption of smart phones and social media platforms occurred. I realized pretty quickly that anything labeled 'smart' actually seemed to make us all dumber, and really just made us all ten feet tall behind a screen and run to our corners of confirmation bias. Add in the manipulation and control of data through those devices, and very little good is going to happen IMO. I like interfacing with humans when I choose to do so, not screens, but everyone has their nose in them all the time now and those devices are not going anywhere.

Add in what Henry says about the boomers, which is 100% true, they have a lot of blame (maybe all the blame) for the perceived deficiencies, and no generation is better than another. They all stink in their own ways, and all have their good as well. My kids, aged 19 to 28, are all smart as hell, work hard, are family-focused, and are very objective. They understand no one owes them a thing and the level of success and dedication they all have is impressive. So something has gone very right with them, despite others in their generation being poor examples of humanity (like we've had in all generations). I'm actually seeing a shift back to more traditional values and viewpoints in the younger generations now, which is something I never expected. Every pancake has two sides, no matter how flat...
I can't find the quotation any longer but once read, "We find ourselves longing for the time when the Internet was so full of hope and promise, and not so full of Spam and porn."
I believe it was attributed to the (co-?)author of Tron (the novel).
 

Synchro

The artist formerly known as: Synchro
Staff member
Jun 2, 2008
26,386
Tucson
Yeah, we brought those kids up that way. Did they invent thier own screens, air conditioning and dependence on imported goods.
I’m pretty sure that they did. I’ve caught them in the act, more than once. :)
 

radd

Friend of Fred
Dec 27, 2017
5,964
Santa Cruz
It is for sure not any of the younger generations that has us edging even closer to nuclear obliteration.
 

Glaw

Gretschie
Aug 30, 2017
456
ca.
Let's also talk about the insufferable boomers who basically wasted this world and then retreat into their air conditioning and complain about all the problems which are basically their fault. It will be my gen's turn soon.

If anything, I am relieved by how well the new generations turned out after seeing such poor examples before them.
I have to agree and I’m 65. I always say to my contemporaries that it’s not our world anymore let the new generations have a world they want not what we think it should be. I can reminisce the good memories and forget the bad as we tend to do. My kids are in their mid twenties and I trust them more than my generation.
 

afire

Friend of Fred
Feb 12, 2009
5,716
Where the action is!
Every generation says the same thing and they finish the sentence with "its not the same thing its worse now", lol
If you go back 40 generations, then things must have been about 40 times better. Man, the 9th century must have been a wonderful time in which to live.
I read a book about that, some years ago. Basically, they showed examples, over the decades, of people commenting on events, and pretty much it always was that things used to be a lot better, but lately they’ve gotten much worse.
In my hometown of Appleton, WI, the main drag is College Ave. Friday and Saturday nights the street is saturated with teenagers and young adult ne'er-do-wells lining the sidewalks and preening while cars slowly driving from one end to the other with occupants scoping out those of the opposite sex and showing off their wheels. I remember in high school a teacher reading us an op-ed in the Appleton Post-Crescent that was a rant about the degenerate youth making College Ave. inhospitable to respectable adults. The twist at the end was that it had been written a hundred years before. I guess some things never change.
I can't find the quotation any longer but once read, "We find ourselves longing for the time when the Internet was so full of hope and promise, and not so full of Spam and porn."
That's not exactly true. When I started college is right about when the internet really started taking off. I remember walking into one of the libraries and looking over at a bank of computers and I swear to God, about half of them had porn pulled on the screen. It was hilarious. It was so novel that most people didn't even know it existed before they got to college and had internet access and they were so tickled by easy public access to porn that they didn't even think that they shouldn't be viewing it openly on school computers. Almost like porn etiquette had yet to be developed. I thought it was hilarious and will never forget it. Bottom line, I'm certain that as soon as accessing images online became a thing, it couldn't have taken long for somebody to say, "Hey, I've got a great idea," and internet pornography was born.
 

MrWookiee

Country Gent
Jun 17, 2020
1,511
SoCal, USA
If you go back 40 generations, then things must have been about 40 times better. Man, the 9th century must have been a wonderful time in which to live.

In my hometown of Appleton, WI, the main drag is College Ave. Friday and Saturday nights the street is saturated with teenagers and young adult ne'er-do-wells lining the sidewalks and preening while cars slowly driving from one end to the other with occupants scoping out those of the opposite sex and showing off their wheels. I remember in high school a teacher reading us an op-ed in the Appleton Post-Crescent that was a rant about the degenerate youth making College Ave. inhospitable to respectable adults. The twist at the end was that it had been written a hundred years before. I guess some things never change.

That's not exactly true. When I started college is right about when the internet really started taking off. I remember walking into one of the libraries and looking over at a bank of computers and I swear to God, about half of them had porn pulled on the screen. It was hilarious. It was so novel that most people didn't even know it existed before they got to college and had internet access and they were so tickled by easy public access to porn that they didn't even think that they shouldn't be viewing it openly on school computers. Almost like porn etiquette had yet to be developed. I thought it was hilarious and will never forget it. Bottom line, I'm certain that as soon as accessing images online became a thing, it couldn't have taken long for somebody to say, "Hey, I've got a great idea," and internet pornography was born.
What gets me is that with a smartphone in one's hand, one has nearly immediate access to a significant percentage of the entire amassed knowledge of all of humankind. Rather than using this amazing tool for the betterment of everyone, we squander it by spending our time looking at silly memes and cat videos, all the while responding to things that appeal to both our base instincts and a "Lord of the Flies" mentality.

G-T excepted, of course!
 

Bertotti

Friend of Fred
Jul 20, 2017
9,765
South Dakota
The sad thing is you can see the truth of OPs post every single day in the manufacturing plants I visit. I have to warn all the managers do not hire someone for a specific location in tue shop it immediately becomes the only the they will let you grow best them into doing half assed and everything else, it not my job! I tell everyone this is where you will start it is not where you will be forever you will work elsewhere in tue facility and some of it you just won’t like.

One palce hired a new manager. Did his physicals in tue morning spent the afternoon meeting people getting familiar with the shop. Next morning put him ona. Computer for some initial online training. I dont know how long he tried but he was discovered MIA an hour or so later. 65000$ to start and walks off the job because, “It’s not for me”

Sawa lot of people wanting the managers job shouw up in tennis shoes, shorts or jeans and tshirts who how to a managers interview dressed like that. I looked right at one and told the store manager if he’s here for a managers job dressed like that send him home. He interviewed him anyway but now he is no longer a manager as well.
 

Emergence

Synchromatic
May 25, 2022
555
New York
I don't know, I kind of agree. No need to stress out over hard things unless they're actually worth doing. And even then, pay other people to do it.

(Sorry, just inserting a contrary opinion for the fun of it although I'm sort of serious...)
I’m more than sort of serious about this. The really hard work is the work done by your brain. Your brain burns more calories per hour per gram than any other organ in your body. That’s your real heavy lifting. You can pay others to lift the buckets and carry the physical load. Don’t pay anyone to do your thinking for you. I’m retired now and made a great life for myself and my family thinking things up that others couldn’t even imagine.
 

drmilktruck

I Bleed Orange
May 17, 2009
19,737
Plymouth, MN
I will push back a bit. My son is 26 and very hard working. Admittedly he has been treated well as an only child but he appreciates that. He has said that we didn't let him get away with stuff his friends did, although we were hardly mean parents. I think it was more by example, like I learned from my Mom & Dad.
 


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