I am so fed-up from other people carelessly demolishing my gear

OzzPocket

Synchromatic
Aug 11, 2020
669
NYS
I believe it was Benjamin Franklin (or maybe it was PeeWee Herman) who said "Neither a borrower nor a lender be"

I never loan out anything.....for exactly the reason you say.

And I never borrow anything gear related because I worry about damaging the item.
 

DoctorBB

Electromatic
Apr 4, 2022
64
Beaumont TX
53 years ago, as an 11 year old knucklehead, I was attempting to mow the grass and couldn’t get the mower to start. Our nice old neighbor saw me struggling and gave it a go, but to no avail. He said to go get his out of the shed and use it. When I finished I rinsed under the deck, rinsed and wiped down the top of the deck and wheels, took a whisk broom to the engine and refilled the tank. Felt great when he told my pop about it. That’s how I was raised.
 

Bertotti

Gretschified
Jul 20, 2017
10,160
South Dakota
I let a guy I know play my triple xxx head cab and combo at my house while I was at a school function with my kids. I get back he is rocking. I walk in he unplugs tue 4x12 to try a different head through it. The Xxx head was still on. I thought he would know better. I shut it off asap and corrected him on it only to get argued with becasue apparently he thought unplugging it was the same as creating and infinite impedance. It just doesn’t work that way. Fast forward six months, I haven’t played that amp since he did. I have It plugged into the 4x12 fire it up, leave it on standby for fifteen minutes turn it on hit the first chord and get a whopping three seconds of sound. Yep, one or more power turns where gone. I was working the OT was fired but no burnt tranny smell so I got lucky. Never the less his way cost me a small fortune at that time in power tubes.

No one plays my stuff if I’m not around and trust them. This guy out plays my by millions of miles but lost all of my trust.
 

dspellman

Gretschie
Jul 4, 2020
415
Los Angeles
I have a long back-story of lending my nicest gear to other people and getting it back with blemishes or even worse
And now you've become a Cautionary Tale.

I don't lend my gear, period. Full stop.

I've also learned not to cover my speaker cabinets with tolex any more. It rips, tears and looks nasty if it gets heavily used.
Duratex by Acrytek is a rubberized coating that goes on with a special textured roller that *looks* like tolex, but doesn't rip or tear and is easy to repair so that it looks like new.

Tougher yet is LineX, which is applied by a commercial dealer. It goes on hot (it's a two-parter), you can take it home within an hour or two, but it takes about 24 hours to fully cure. At that point it's damned near structural; you can do almost anything to it. It's somewhere near 1/8" to 1/4" thick, however, and it adds some weight to your cabinet, but I've had LineX-coated cabinets on tour for a couple of years and they've come back looking near-perfect (whatever they've banged into during that time, not so much). If you're going to lend your stuff to yahoos, this is how it should be prepared.

I have "friends" who steal my picks and who seem to want to play air guitar on my real guitars when they come over. Thus, I have a dish full of Pick Punch picks set out and a couple of really (I mean *seriously*) cheap guitars available for when some drunken idiot wants to play air guitar on a real guitar.
 

Back in Black

Country Gent
Double Platinum Member
Jun 22, 2020
1,724
Ontario Canada
Treat others belongings better than your own.
There was a guitarist in a band I was in that'd put his beer bottle/glass on top of my Hammond. Put an ashtray on it as well. He got ticked when I put them on his amp.
Keep your stains and burns on your own gear. My Hammond was worth three or four times what his entire rig was.

Slim,

Also one of the reasons I took all the courses to service my scuba gear. Got sick and tired of getting my gear back from the ''professionals'' with mis-adjustments/wrench dings/improperly sized ''O'' rings.

Filling the till comes first...customer's life support is unfortunately somewhere down the line.

Barbers/garage mechanics sometimes don't get it either...professional home renovators/repair service ''professionals''...ah, don't get me started!!

Best,

BIB
 

Synchro

The artist formerly known as: Synchro
Staff member
Jun 2, 2008
26,696
Tucson
I do t lend anything, anymore. It’s not that I wouldn’t like to, but I’ve had far too many bad experiences. If someone asks to borrow a tool, I’ll offer my services, and do the work for free, but if someone wants to borrow a tool, the answer is no.

Years ago, I had a great Heritage archtop, think Gibson L-7. I let a friend play it, and he scratched the top, doing Pete Townshend windmills. Why would you windmill a dedicated Jazz axe?

I never lend my gear to anybody. Any blemishes are my own fault. If your in business of renting gear, a different story of course. I've just seen too many people who think it's "rock'n'roll" to abuse gear. Especially if they don't own it. Infuriating indeed.
I hate that. Rockabilly attitude or behaving Rock n’ Roll don’t cut any ice with me.
I believe it was Benjamin Franklin (or maybe it was PeeWee Herman) who said "Neither a borrower nor a lender be"

I never loan out anything.....for exactly the reason you say.

And I never borrow anything gear related because I worry about damaging the item.
The saying goes back to Shakespeare.
 

Falconetti

Synchromatic
Sep 18, 2012
569
Bagsville, Oxford UK
I believe it was Benjamin Franklin (or maybe it was PeeWee Herman) who said "Neither a borrower nor a lender be"

I never loan out anything.....for exactly the reason you say.

And I never borrow anything gear related because I worry about damaging the item.
It’s from Hamlet. Polonius says it to the young prince Hamlet.

‘Neither a borrower nor a lender be,
For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry’.

I haven’t had any really terrible experiences with people damaging my gear which I have loaned to friends and band mates so maybe I am more relaxed about it than many of you. I would like to think I would always keep a sense of perspective all the same. I value the friendship, comradeship and sheer joy of playing with other musicians a lot more than any of my ‘stuff’. Sure I love my guitars and look after them well but they aren’t people. My gear can all be replaced, improved altered and repaired. A deep friendship once damaged is gone forever and you are poorer as a result even if you do have a house full of shiny guitars.
 

thunder58

Super Moderator
Staff member
Double Platinum Member
Dec 23, 2010
27,624
Tappan N.Y.
I haven't loaned a thing out since high school . I graduated in 1977

* Hey can I borrow your amp this weekend
* Sure , I'll need a $500 deposit
* What ? I could buy an amp for that kind of money
* then go buy one
* ...... and there ya go folks , NY style
 

wabash slim

I Bleed Orange
Feb 10, 2010
18,804
lafayette in
Loan gear? There are many businesses that do just that.
It involves money and a contract, and stipulates coverage for damages.
There's a security deposit (or credit card info needed) to get the gear out of the shop.
 

JuniorBaconTreez

Electromatic
Jul 29, 2022
16
Richmond, VA
Frank, you're too nice and trusting.

When a guitar came back with a broken headstock they actually used the argument I was the one that lend it to them. 😳

I had a similar experience.

I lent my brother a set of golf clubs. When I got them back, a driver and the sand wedge were missing, but he had left a Louisville Slugger in the bag for some reason. When I asked him about it..."pretty sure that's how it was when you gave it to me."

I took it as sign to quit playing golf, maybe I should have quit lending stuff out. But I did a get a sweet full size MLB Slugger out of it!
 

Randy99CL

Country Gent
Gold Supporting Member
Feb 17, 2020
2,269
Albuquerque
I haven't loaned a thing out since high school . I graduated in 1977

* Hey can I borrow your amp this weekend
* Sure , I'll need a $500 deposit
* What ? I could buy an amp for that kind of money
* then go buy one
* ...... and there ya go folks , NY style
Reminds me of that great movie A Clear and Present Danger.
Harrison Ford, "How much to buy the helicopter"
Two million dollars.
How about a test flight? Okay, if you leave a deposit.
How much deposit? Two million dollars.
 

thunder58

Super Moderator
Staff member
Double Platinum Member
Dec 23, 2010
27,624
Tappan N.Y.
Reminds me of that great movie A Clear and Present Danger.
Harrison Ford, "How much to buy the helicopter"
Two million dollars.
How about a test flight? Okay, if you leave a deposit.
How much deposit? Two million dollars.
now thats funny ....🤣🤣
 


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